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Marblenuts



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 4:42 pm    Post subject: A relisting? Reply with quote

http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-MARBLES-ANTIQUE-TOY-CLAY-MARBLES-OLD-BENNINGTON_W0QQitemZ250200516582QQihZ015QQcategoryZ772QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:52 pm    Post subject: Seller changed auction format Reply with quote

He now keeps the bidders ID private, and does not accept returns for auction sales.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I moved this into the main forum because it's a topic that could lend itself to a current discussion. (We can always move it back to the "Pros & Cons" area later. Wink)

Now..............someone sent me a link to a discussion on Lou's board about this one and asked me what I thought. I don't know a whole lot about old clays, Benningtons, etc., but I've never seen nor heard of an "Shielded eagle on a blue bennington" before. However, it was mentioned on Lou's thread that the seller had purchased "blue ceramic glaze" in the past. Sure enough, if you look at their recent purchases, you'll see it. Here's where they bought the glaze. Looks like their $1.90 purchase has given them a good return. They've actually sold 2 of these fake "Shielded Eagles". The first one was on Dec. 18 and it sold for $256. Brad, the one that you're showing is for another one. It's smaller than the first one (that one was over 1") and this one went for $115.

I'm sure that the reason that the bidder's ID is private, is to keep folks like us from contacting the unsuspecting buyers........to keep their gravy train rolling! Laughing It's really disgusting though, what some people will do in chasing the almighty dollar.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

that's one big smoking gun!

where's the seller from? i wonder if local police would do anything?

edit: d'oh - guess we'd have to know who it is first...maybe we could bid on the next one, some insane amount, then get the contact info...

edit #2: - if you take the auction literally, it does look like a genuine antique bennington with an eagle on it - he just left out the part where he added the eagle recently....so has he truly committed fraud?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

She is guilty of both fraud and violating the Hobby Act. The part about having had it in her family since 19070 was a nice touch, she could list it in vintage handmades. She has also sold a lot or 2 of fake green bennies.

There was a 6 or 7 page discussion on this at LOM.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a huge discussion on LOM about this marble when it sold for for around $250. The seller was invited to the board and it got really ugly really fast Crying or Very sad . I was surprised to see the marble relisted or another marble just like it. Not really sure what to think of this seller.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, I believe this seller is a fraud as well as several other members from LOM. The seller joined so that she could defend herself but in actuality attacked the members of the board who exsposed her. The second *marble* with the eagle emblem is smaller than the first one and signicantly FLATTER. It looks as though she took a button with the emblem and made an impression. There was another auction loaded with blue bennies and one green one. All looked suspicious.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250200339866

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=250200545241&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=015[/img]


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ponkochan wrote:

It's really disgusting though, what some people will do in chasing the almighty dollar.

I include eBay in that catagory.
Are we allowed to post the seller's name of "questionable" lots? Whenever I am in doubt about a seller I search their eBay name on the marble sights. If it comes up I read what other folks have said about them. This one is youhave2bid2win
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dutch, I think that including the seller's name is a good idea for "Google" search purposes. That's why I included the picture of her "blue glaze" purchase. Long after the auction is gone, it will show up in this thread. Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a huge blow-out between this seller and members on land of marbles tonight. It got super ugly and way out of hand.
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