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Information and Pics of Mushroom Patch Marbles
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orbboy



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great info. Seeing more of them helps to understand them better that's for sure. I sent a hundred or so to the UK last year for sale. I have found a few since, I'll dig them up for when you come trading. I think they are all pretty common though. None I sent to England were anything different than the ones you have showed in your write up. All were the transparent type leading me to believe they were way more common.
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browse4antiques



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The transparents are much more common, and they can be found with some regularity here in Canada, but I don't see them too often in batches from outside Canada. I know that the mushroom effect could happen from time to time with any of several other types as well. I think there is a type of Akro ribbon patch for which the ribbons usually line up at the cutoffs, but if one is a bit thinner, it would look mushroomish. I have heard others say that these mught be newer MK, but I don't think I've ever seen a newer MK at all. I have a corkscrew that didn't spin (same run with others that did), and it looks like a mushroom too. The ones that I have shown were all obtained in clearly vintage lots.
Galen, I have 5 red that are 11/16", they are all helmet, and 4 that are 9/16", and 3 are helmet, and 1 is mushroom, so I wasn't sure about it at all. So perhaps red does appear in both formats. I have a yellow/red but it is a messed up one, so I didn't include a pic of it, but I'm sure yours are also the same type. Yes, I would be interested in trading for one of your yellow/red ones. What size is it? and what do you want in return? I have some older pics of this type of marble that I will improve on, and include in my description sometime later. The first 2 pics are close-ups of mushrooms and matching color crease transitionals. The last pic is mushrooms with Marble Kings. ... Roger


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marble_den



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 12:53 pm    Post subject: Found some more in my stash Reply with quote

Here are 12 more.
There are ?11 Marble Kings and 1 Vitro oxblood.
1 of the first group could be Akro, (the purple and yellow).
Will continue to look for more.

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tankgrrl29
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm confused....i was under the impression that roger was showing a particular type of patch that was by an unknown maker of marbles (similar, maybe, in color to the "transitional" types that are usually found in canada).

so far, i don't see any that look like the type roger showed, but maybe i'm just looking at this all wrong?
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marble_den



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:43 pm    Post subject: Roger said ... Reply with quote

Roger said, "The transparents are much more common..." So I assume that the opaques are less common.
He also said, "I know that the mushroom effect could happen from time to time with any of several other types as well."
The marbles that I am finding have a mushroom form also.
Although, not as distinct as the first ones that Roger is showing.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i see what you're saying, patry. i thought roger was making the point that any maker can have a random (accidental) mushroom configuration, and he was trying to educate us about those that are distinct from the accidental ones.

i wonder if we ever will find out who made these mushroom types!
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Ponkochan
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is such interesting information that I copied everything from Roger's web page and reproduced it below, just in case the link or the photo host goes down and so that I can archive it. Thanks for this post, Roger!


MUSHROOM PATCH MARBLES


In what follows, I assume the reader is familiar with the terminology and nomenclature of collecting antique marbles. This is a description of a type of vintage marbles that I call mushroom patch marbles. I believe these marbles were produced by the same manufacturer who produced the crease transitionals, but probably at a slightly later date, perhaps the late 1940's or early 1950's. There are several similarities that suggest this connection, and I will point them out along the way. But these marbles are very distinctive, of high quality glass, and the well constructed ones are quite beautiful, regardless of who made them. The first image shows the basic, and most common examples: transparent aqua, amber, green, and blue. The larger ones are 11/16", and the smaller ones are 9/16".



The next image shows three different colour combinations of opaque examples. These are the only two-color ones that I have found so far: yellow on purple, blue, and green. The red and white examples are constructed as helmet patches, whereas all the other colour combinations are reverse-helmets, which gives the impression of a mushroom.



There are also opaque examples that include white. The following image shows a white on green opaque, that has an overlay of bright red that almost covers all the white.



There are also overlay examples on transparent base. The image below shows a white on transparent green example with an orange overlay.



The first panel of the next image shows two 9/16" examples. One is an orange transparent, which is in the usual mushroom format, and also an opaque green and yellow that has a additional brown colour. The next panel demonstrates that sometimes the striping can be very wispy, and also it shows that the base glass sometimes gets above the white to create darker shaded versions. The third panel is another green and white opaque overlaid with orange. The last panel demonstrates that not all of these appear in the well constructed mushroom shape. About half of them are found with inferior patterns, sometimes only consisting of half-and-half patches, and sometimes twisted up to the extent that the mushroom shape is barely discernable. In my opinion, the ones that form the mushroom shapes are the most desirable.



This type of marble is mostly found in Canada, as is the case for the crease transitionals. It is interesting to note that the most prevalent colour combinations, as shown in the first image, are also the most prevalent for the crease transitionals, and in addition, the red/white version is reversed, as it is for the crease transitionals. I have both yellow/purple and yellow/blue crease transitionals for which the glass matches up perfectly to the mushroom examples.



If you know of any other types, please let me know at the email address: browse at kingston dot net. I have some traders, including a few nice examples of the two-colour opaque ones.


The information above came from Roger's (browseforantiques) link in his first post in this thread.

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