Marvelous Mibs Marbles Collectors Zone

bigjohn691500 · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 254

well for me the protect image box came up when right clicked but when i hit the ok button the box came up to save and it even give my the address under properties, that said i did just upgrade to windows 8 which i had to do for viewing this car site, it was free the only draw back is ie8 is like learning windows all over agin very very different but this is whats coming and alot of newer websites required it so i did it to get a jump on the rush, the link i followed was here http://masondixonautoauction.com/home.html
you cant see any pictures on this site until you upgrade to ie8,, still getting used to the change,,,,bj

mmuehlba · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 171 Location: Lannon Wi

I also use Foxfire and it just let me save the picture where every I want . I do not use microsoft internet explorer but use fire fox as it just works better and seams to be even faster .

I remember being banned from Mike at Marquee marble auctions , for coping some of his pics . I think he is out of business now any ways ?/ ..
Mike

Ponkochan · Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 5:46 pm Post subject:

David Chamberlain · Joined: 18 May 2009 Posts: 214

I'll be the first to admit that I am not computer savvy but aren't these procedures an attempt to violate copyright protection? I'm wondering also why these images are being protected in the first place. No one has explained that. If there's a good reason it might give one pause. Again, I
don't know but I'm curious. Anyone have an answer? David Chamberlain

Ponkochan · Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 4:34 pm Post subject:

When the whole situation with Mike Cull reared its "ugly head" on Lou's board (the folks posting the pics had actually bought the marbles from him and he told them to 'cease & desist'), many of us looked into the copyright laws.

David Chamberlain · Joined: 18 May 2009 Posts: 214

Oh yes, now I recall something about all that a while back as well although I wasn't connected then. Have to admit I thought it was rather strange that he was getting all in a lather over someone posting pictures of a marble that they'd bought and that belonged to them. You'd have thought he'd be pleased that the person who bought it wanted to show it off! David Chamberlain

David Chamberlain · Joined: 18 May 2009 Posts: 214

The trouble with these Posts is that they often don't allow adequate time for reflection. I've rethought the post by Roger re. Auctive which started this thread and we should most definitely have a right to protect our images if we chose to do so, setting specific standards that our website considers inviolate and stating as such in our website rules with safeguards to assure this,

To provide as Roger does surefire procedures to circumvent those safeguards violates the integrity of ownership. And to revel in it as so many do in this thread clearly shows rampant complicity.

I would think the President of (personal information removed by moderator), the Board of Trustees and specifically the Computer School would be aghast at Roger's instructions. Most likely flabbergasted!

He could not of thought through the consequences of such a post when he made it. David Chamberlain

The Marble Monkey · Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 10:10 am Post subject:

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browse4antiques · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 552

David, The internet has created some interesting problems of protected material. But I doubt if there will ever be any legal protection against someone saving a copy of an image that was used as a part of an advertisement for a sale or auction. That would be like trying to force people to throw out the magazines and newspapers that they have read. It is an entirely different matter if the images are used in some way that infringes on the owner's commercial use. That is what there are laws to protect against.
The person who puts up an image in an auction already realizes that the image will be downloaded to the viewer's computer - otherwise the image could not be viewed at all. So then the issue is whether or not the viewer has the right to retain, access, and reorganize the files on their own computer. What Auctiva has done to supposedly 'protect' images is to temporarily limit the functionality of the viewer's software in order to make it difficult for the user to carry out copying and renaming of images within the viewer's own computer. Thus, I see it as Auctiva acting in a way to attempt to intrude on the rights of the viewer, and I'm happy to help anyone who does not want to be subjected to that intrusion.
I have never knowingly condoned illegal activity of any kind, and if you have any concerns in that respect about anything that I might post, I'd suggest you ask me about it first before you go off with implied threats concerning my employment. ... Roger

lstmmrbls · Site Admin Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 696

David is fairly new to the world of the Internet. And may not realize that most all organizations (esp. universities and colleges) that use the internet are very well aware of Fair use. And most welcome the use of their materials to further internet users education. It is only when materials are used for profit that the problema occur. Many published papers pictures and photos are even put on the internet in the hopes they are copied and used for educational purposes. Here is a great link;
http://www.qc.cuny.edu/search.php?cx=009714833259718276765%3A66tmbmxz6si&cof=FORID%3A11&q=Fair+use+of+internet+images&sa=Search#1111
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