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that1



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 5:02 pm    Post subject: Odd Pontils Reply with quote

Thought these looked a bit different than the crease I usually see. Bottom right has the "crease", one to it's left has what almost looks like a pontil you see on handmades. approx 3/4"

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browse4antiques



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't see the cutoff on the bottom right, but I believe all the others are German. The giveaway is that they all have that characteristic circular stripe emerging from the cutoff. (crease-pontils tend to whip back and forth rather than circle, and Japanese ones rarely have any striping emerging or meeting the cutoff). The German cutoff is basically a very short, straight indented line. Sometimes the line is so short that it is referred to as a pin-pontil, and sometimes the line is there, but it is underneath a regular-pontil (like handmades). The ones with the regular pontils are (I believe) the oldest. .. Roger
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would agree with Roger although with the new facts that they were making machine rounded marbles (with much hand work) In Amsterdam we may need to start saying European
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Love 'em and great photo too!


(what I like to collect Wink) Part of the fascination for me is that less is known about this part of marbles history compared to the Amer. manufacturers, as Galen mentions.
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browse4antiques



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Galen, do you have a link to the information that you heard about marble production in Amsterdam? thanks, ... Roger
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winnie



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:38 am    Post subject: odd pontils Reply with quote

Here is the link Galen was referring to
http://marbleconnection.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=15635
This is the newspaper with the article.

winnie
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