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Rhonda · Joined: 07 Aug 2007 Posts: 100 Location: Earl Park, Indiana

I would argue Vitro on that one Chuck (not on the top one but yours that you posted) but the amount of bubbles is something I've never seen on a Vitro. What tells you akro?
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Ponkochan · Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 12:50 pm Post subject:

The colors are what made me say Akro on this one (albeit the construction is looser than most Sparklers, but not unknown.) I've seen every one of those colors in an Akro Sparkler before..........although not in one example. Wink

(even the lone black strand) I'll try to find some example pics.

Chuck, the last one that you showed.............I'd have with my Vitros. (although I've seen similar types in the 'dug' Akros.)
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orbboy · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 217 Location: Ontario, Canada

I see nothing but Vitro. Like this one but more internal.

nutz4lutz · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 61

I've seen Akro's with clear bubbly glass and an oxblood patch. The blue/yellow area forms a wispy patch that has a certain Akro look. The surface doesn't have the orange peel texture that so many foreign marbles do.

browse4antiques · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 552

The pics below are German Sparklers. They have the more usual construction that seemss to be in a single plane. Neither of them have any evidence of "orange peel". Whereas "orange peel" usually indicates German, I don't think the lack of "orange peel" indicates not German. Another, probably more reliable, feature is that there is usually some evidence of crimping at the cutoff on the German ones. I don't know if Akro sometimes have that or not (I don't have enough Akro Sparklers to judge that). The one that Bob shows seems to have the off-core strands less distinct, and more blended into the base than is usually the case with German ones. And in pics, you see the way the colored stripes seem to lie perpendicular to the core. It is quite common for Germans to be constructed like that, and I don't see that in Bob's. ... Roger

randy go · Joined: 10 Aug 2007 Posts: 23 Location: Southern California

Some Interesting marbles here:

Bob's Marble mimics some of the transparent Tri-Lites, but the cut lines are not right, and the size is large, and there are a lot of bubbles. I guess foreign-German.

I have Vitro Phantom conquerors which have straw colored filaments that match the yellow in Chuck Jr.s mib. However, all of mine of this type are perfectly crystal clear, without bubbles. Perhaps Akro, see Lizzy's marble at 5 o'clock in her Akros that fool ya, thread. Nonetheless, I would like to see it in hand.

I am not sure I have seen a Vitro like Dave's. Particularly the 1st pic in the second row, and both pics in the 3rd row. It looks like a cross between a cat and a conq (conq-kat?) but those are different processes. And there are a lot of good sized bubbles, rarer in Vitro, so I would again say foreign.

Chuck Jr. Are you doing the Pasadena swapmeet still? Email me if you ever open the memorabilia store.
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machinemades · Joined: 30 Aug 2007 Posts: 111 Location: Walnut Creek, Ca

I do not see any Akro Sparkler in any picture of this thread. I vote for foreign on the first marble too. Wonderful marble.
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jlmoriarty · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 200 Location: Tir na nOg

Chuck~~ your pic could very well be a Master.

Dave~~ I'm with Randy that your mib looks foreign to me. The strands are split and wavy looking, if that makes sense.

Roger~~ "The one that Bob shows seems to have the off-core strands less distinct, and more blended into the base than is usually the case with German ones. And in pics, you see the way the colored stripes seem to lie perpendicular to the core."

I'm having a hard time visualizing "the colored stripes lie perpendicular to the core." The stripes are *parallel* to the core, no?

Sami~~ Welcome Aboard!!!! But you're wrong. Just kidding. LOL Laughing

John

browse4antiques · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 552

Hi John, Yes, after I wrote that I realized it might not be too clear. What I meant was that there are often strands that come from the core that almost look like mini-catseye wings. As a result some actually look more like catseyes than sparklers. Here are 3 pics of 5/8" ones, all found together (sorry they are old pics and not good). In the 2 that I posted towards the beginning of the topic, you can see a few little solid mini-wings emerging from the core, not just strands. (I don't know after reading this, I'm not sure if it makes any more sense!) ... Roger

tankgrrl29 · Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:17 pm Post subject:

hi roger...i got what you were saying about the perpendicular, but wasn't sure how you were relating that to bob's original post.

were you saying his did or didn't look like the german sparklers, in your opinion?

btw, for what it's worth, i would vote akro on this one. the colors are totally in the range of akro's palatte; there are cutlines like you would see on the sparklers; and the general shape is not quite right for the german ones. (i *think* that might be what roger was alluding to)