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marble_den · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 50 Location: Colorado

Tried to find the thread about these.
Here are 4 sizes of them.
3/4", 11/16", 5/8" & 9/16".
My favorite is with the blue.
The smaller ones have less color and I think seem newer than the marbles that used to be considered, "mystery patch", marbles.

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kris7047th · Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Posts: 777 Location: Monroe,Michigan

I really apreciate the any/all information on these as I bought a 3/4" Superior that was listed as a Peltier and I didn't know either. Turns out, I think that it is a good thing that it is a Vitro Superior and not a Peltier.
Kris

txmarble · Joined: 13 Aug 2007 Posts: 192

The bottom two in your pic are not Superiors - Superiors have a yellow patch. The bottom two look like what collectors call Bulls Eyes (not to be confused with the marbles in Bulls Eye packaging which are different).
Here are come collector named Bulls Eyes.

Ponkochan · Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 9:32 pm Post subject:

Patry, the bottom two are "Bullseyes" as Jim mentions. I know from first-hand experience how confusing it can be!

But when I've tried to describe a "Superior" to someone before...........I described them as having a "yellow patch surrounded by a ring of red at one pole...........that sometimes kind of looks like a bullseye pattern. The base is usually transparent/translucent with stringy filaments, almost like a Phantom Conqueror, although Edna showed some that she called 'Opaque Bullseyes'.

So, it's easy to see why you'd think that they are "Superiors" too. Very Happy

These are some groupings of "Bullseyes" that I used to have. Some of them do have the same red/yellow patch as a Superior, but not always.

Here's a group shot of Superiors that Randy G. sent me a few years ago, when I was trying to figure out what they were. Wink

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Ponkochan · Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 9:59 pm Post subject:

I forgot to mention though..............yes, the Superiors are harder to find in the larger sizes. (Kris got lucky with that 3/4" one!! hehe) This is one was not quite 11/16" and it's a little different looking. It is on an opaque base. I gave it to Randy and he confirmed it as a Superior.

Just to show how diverse these Superiors can be..........here's another pretty one (5/8") that Chuck, Jr. (chucksmibs) posted on LOM.

The name "Superior" was coined by the Brandstetters. It was, as you mention Patry, what was formerly known as the "Mystery Patch". I believe that they came up with the name because it reminded them of the sunset on Lake Superior.

I think that they are some of Vitro's most striking marbles!

txmarble · Joined: 13 Aug 2007 Posts: 192

Here are a few more Superiors.

wvrons · Joined: 30 Aug 2007 Posts: 67 Location: WV

Nice pictures showing the different superiors.

tankgrrl29 · Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:08 pm Post subject:

wow, the definition sure has evolved!

i thought a superior was a very specific type of "elite"/tri-lite. just like how an aquamarine has a specific color scheme, so would a superior.

randy's and kris' from the other thread are ones that would fit what i had in mind with the white, rusty brown, red-orange, clear, and that mustard yellow patch.

txmarble · Joined: 13 Aug 2007 Posts: 192

Here is how Chuck defined them in the WVMCC newsletter

Superiors are another attractive and fairly common Tri-lite with a characteristic deep yellow patch surrounded by a very rich red band. The base is usually translucent white and there is almost always a secondary patch on the bottom. The secondary patch on the shooters is either green, blue or red-brown and on the smaller marbles can also be other colors such as purple, black, yellow and sometimes oxblood.

tankgrrl29 · Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:34 pm Post subject:

d'oh! thanks for the reminder. guess i've been too focused on my pelts these days Smile

i would be a stickler about the "deep yellow" vs the bright yellow shown on some of these picks though... Cool