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Doogle



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 3:14 am    Post subject: same marble, smaller images Reply with quote

Hopefully this is the same marble as the last post with the huge images. I hope this makes it easier? I used the free link provided called "TinyPic", and lets see what happens: 15/16"

Type? Slag? Swirl? Maker? Machine made or handmade? Rarity? Any information at all would be greatly appreciated!










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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say its a Vitro. Vitros are generally known to be a patch type of marble, but these larger ones get a little crazy, almost to the swirly point. LOL Unfortuneatly in the condition it is in....no real value.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think we could rule out slag. It appears to have both white and aqua in the striping over the dark blue base. I also believe its a patch type marble that's a bit twisted. ... Roger
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Catfish. Peace,Galen
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 1:50 pm    Post subject: patch types Reply with quote

thanks for the info.

Now...the term "patch" is interesting to me and I am still learning about this, so bear with me. I don't know how a patch marble was or is constructed. My first thoughts and visualizations on the term Patch was someone taking a glob of glass and adding it to the marble, which would mean it would have to be handmade. That is wrong I see. Lots of pictures of marbles with a patch show just a pretty uniform section of colored glass that kind of looks like a helmet, or I guess, a patch. How did they do this with a machine made marble? And how does a machine make a brush patch? If there are already posted tutorial threads in the archives, I will find them eventually. If not, a little info would be appreciated, or the link to the archieved threads.

These globs of glass called marbles are very complicated!! But so beautiful. And I am not, at least at this point, really concerned with the value of my marbles. Maybe somewhere down the road, but for now, I am just enjoying learning about them. Thank you.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

imagine water coming out of the faucet. Now imagine squeezing some liquid detergent onto the flow of water. Change the shape and size of the detergent stream or add more and you get different type patches if this was streams of glass and it was being cut into marble size globs of glass. Thats a very simple version. Best I can do without diagrams and an hour worth of typing. The glass runs in streams through porcelain nozzles then get cut up. Here is something Jeff Halecolored. It will give a basic idea. This was for Akro corkscrews but if you eliminate the spinning cup it gives you a basic idea. Peace,Galen


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 2:36 pm    Post subject: making a patch marble... Reply with quote

That was a great lesson! Thank you! I am going to print out those illustrations, unless it is forbidden.

Now it makes sense as to why marbles can be put into catagories for identification by the rough content and mix of glass. And also explains the wild differences in a run of marbles.

Thank you!
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm glad that Galen did the 'splaining' on this one. Smile

I do agree that Vitro is the best choice for maker.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I sure wish I had some drawings on the feeder and nozzle setups at CAC.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Me too ! Let me know when you find them, Galen.

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