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jormibnut



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 5:09 pm    Post subject: Cat eye with oxblood Reply with quote

I'm not a cat eye collector but I recently came across one with oxblood. It's a 4 vane orange in clear glass with pronounced oxblood at the end of each vane. Common, uncommon or rare? Thanks, Art
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browse4antiques



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are pics of a cross-through that has what appears to be oxblood. I suspect that it is just a fluke for any real catseye to have oxblood. The German sparklers (which can sometimes look very cats-eye-like) will often have one of several different shades that look somewhat like oxblood. ... Roger
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tankgrrl29
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i've seen oxblood-looking glass in MK cats that i wasn't sure about (as far as whether or not it was really oxblood), and then there's the occasional string of "oxblood" that shows up in pelt green bananas. don't think i've seen it in vitro, and then there's the foreign sparkler types that roger showed.

when's your daughter available to take some pics of that marble? it sounds like something to see, and a marble that cat's-eye lovers would seek for their collection. in other words: if true oxblood and not just a discoloration, then yes to rare.

(art, if you don't have a way to post pics, email me and i can help)
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jormibnut



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris: My last camera was a kodak 620 box. And I couldn't even take good pictures with that one.
I'll see what I can do. Art
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fat freddy's cat



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sounds like the type of marble Roger described which I collect when I find them in UK not very common here, I would guess rarer in US, I wonder though, if many are just packed away with any old cat eyes.

Heres some of mine, hope you work out how to show yours Wink


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tankgrrl29
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oops - i just realized the type roger showed aren't the sparkler type...but zora's are. roger, that's a great marble i haven't seen before!

wow, art.......that's one old camera! Laughing




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David Chamberlain



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZiggyZora's group are sweet but Roger's is decidedly rarer. I've had both.

Oxblood is unusual in cat's-eyes. I wouldn't mind using ZZ's group in my cat's-eye series over at Marble Mental.

It's true oxblood along the edge of those green bananas. Then Marble King did a 4 vane 5/8" marble that is oxblood-like which Castle & Peterson highlighted. I say more a "burnt orange with brown and a hint of mold!" There's also a Vitro cage-style with the same ugly coloration.

Will try relisting #s51 - 60 today where one of the marbles is outrageous.....Joe Bob says, "Check it out!" .....David
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lstmmrbls
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What criteria do you use for "true oxblood"
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fat freddy's cat



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I first looked I thought Rogers was a sparkler, had a closer look after Chris posted and see the cross through cat. I'm probably not the only one to jump to conclusions with out a good look first. David you would be welcome to use any from me... already!

Butt seriously though, would like to see the marble Art has and the thoughts on 'true oxblood'
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David Chamberlain



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose by 'true oxblood' in this instance I mean that coloration that we'd traditionally come to accept as representing oxblood whereas with the experimentation at Jabo over the past year and a half it has been demonstrated that the same chemical and heating processes which produced the traditional oxblood color have produced radically different colorations.
I think that answers your question. David C.
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