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harbor · Joined: 29 Dec 2007 Posts: 180 Location: Big Sky Country

Hello all! I received these in a lot recently, and I can't seem to figure any of them. Any help and opinions and expertise is greatly appreciated.
The first one must be some kind of handmade german, it has a pontil that is smooth at one end, and it has just a small crease at the other, as though it may be a first of cane mib. It looks to be black and opaque, but when backlit it is a deep ruby red, and measures 15/16". I have never seen anything like it, so maybe you know!

Next is one that appears to have two seams though in odd places.

The last one is minty green and blackish greyish.

thank you so much! catherine
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harbor · Joined: 29 Dec 2007 Posts: 180 Location: Big Sky Country

Oh darn..again I apologize for the size of these pics. I edited them and reduced them in photobucket, but they are still just huge. Any advice?? thanks again. have a great week all!
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Ponkochan · Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:06 pm Post subject:

The size of your pics are fine now, Catherine. Smile

The first one is tough for me. I'd be thinking German hand-made, maybe a Banded Transparent.........or maybe even a Submarine? But in one of the pics, it almost has a "Chevron" look to it. Heck, I don't know. Laughing

Perhaps more views might help.

Here's an old thread on Lou's board where Roger explains the "Banded Transparents" vs the "Submarines". Does it sound like the construction on yours? Click the thumbnail for a larger view.

The second one appears to be a WV swirl and the "seams" are not really seams..........just where the glass folds. Maybe Champion?

The last is another WV swirl and what some call a "Pistachio". They seem to be attributed to Alley or Ravenswood.

Hopefully someone with more expertise will help out here. Smile

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harbor · Joined: 29 Dec 2007 Posts: 180 Location: Big Sky Country

Evening Lizzy and thank you for the help.
I could post more pics of the first one. What is a "chevron"? Thanks for the old posting that described submarines and banded opaques. I think what confuses me about this one is that rather than multiple swirls coming from the poles, the pattern clearly corkscrews from the pole around in a single stream(of multiple colors) to the other pole, actually there are two separate streams corkscrewing. And I wouldn't say the bands submarine into the mib, it is so dark it is hard to tell, but there is clearly a black thin line or two of a core. Does this help anyone more?
Will post additional pics that follow the corkscrew tomorrow evening.
I think the pistachio is very sharp looking, thanks for the id of that and the other, rather fine examples of their makers I think.
Have a great Thursday!
catherine
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Ponkochan · Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:34 am Post subject:

Oh, I didn't even realize that the first one corkscrewed! Yes, additional pictures would probably help (unless someone with more more knowledge........(er hem, like Roger, Lloyd, etc. hehe) stops by and can help out without the need for additional views.

I went looking for some Pistachio pics and found this on this on the marbleforum blog. Although keep in mind that there are many knowledgeable collectors that say that Ravenswood made some of these (and even perhaps other makers...........including the rumored CAC version).

Although these are clearly different "Pistachios" than the Alley or Ravenswood version, I thought that this would be a good time to show them.

This is one that Gary (GLSS) posted a long time ago and that he thought was CAC.

And one that Craig (Spara50) posted that Galen said might possibly be a CAC.

A "Chevron" has a wavy banded pattern. Here's an example of some "Banded Opaques?" with a Chevron pattern..........although I don't know if they are 'true' Chevrons. These were posted by that1.

Then here's one that JVV marbles posted that some thought was a "Chevron" but he wasn't sure. He thought that it might be a handmade slag with a "Chevron-like" pattern. Confusing, huh? Wink

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browse4antiques · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 552

I'd say the top one is a handmade slag, rather than a banded opaque. To me the distinction is that the handmade slags are made with molten glass applied as striping, whereas the banded opaques used rods, or rod shards. So the striping bands on the handmade slags tend to blend into the base glass, and sink into it too. ...Roger