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| David Chamberlain |
 Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 10:51 am Post subject: |
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| This was the beginning and end of a great thread that any new collector should view so as to get past the stage of disillusionment and get on with fun collecting. I just had the perfect example of a similar experience in IDing from a photograph. I was emailed pics of a 5/8" marble(actually a group of them) in root beer glass that had slag and swirl appearance. I right off ID'd them as from the April 2005 Jabo run that Dave McCullough dumped because he felt they were too dark. Mike Johnson saved some from the outside bin and I had some right in front of me to use as examples. Well the chap who had emailed me sent me some of the marbles and lo and behold they were all from a Vacor run and I'm sure are clearly pictured at some site at Land of Marbles. It's a tough one to try and figure out what you have from one or two marble books; you really need a whole host of other factors to be able to make anything approaching a definitive identification. David |
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| fat freddy's cat |
| Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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| browse4antiques wrote: | Here's a nice example of your point about glass colors. Left is (I think) Champion swirl, Right is a corkscrew. ...Roger
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This thread is so fascinating and informative, hope there are more examples like this.
Sorry my pics were not too good, (taken with in-built flash to put here quick before losing the moment). Been gathering, sorting and looking at marbles for years but only started learning lately when I came across marble forums. I tend to post pics when I see something similar in a thread. Of the red/whites the left one is very opaque and very white. The right one is more opalescent with transparency, particularly in the red, it does have brown tint which I see as the red thinned out. For the last 2 years I have been keeping pics of the mibs before sorting them but cant spot either of these in a pic. Thank you, always appreciate comments from all. |
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| browse4antiques |
| Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't see separate transparent brown - I think it is a WV drizzle. Both American Agates and Bloodies are difficult for starting collectors. I can remember back when I started that I thought I had dozens of oxbloods, but they were all just darker red. ...Roger |
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| Ponkochan |
| Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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Roger, excellent example of a "color match" between makers!
Galen & Roger, thanks for chiming in.  I was hoping to hear from you both on ZZ's "drizzle" marbles.
I think that this is another good illustration of how some marbles are so difficult to ID from a pic. In the first shot of this one..........the white looks just like it does on the hand-gathered transitional or Japanese pinch/crease pontil types (did I cover all the possible terms?  )............but in the 2nd picture......it doesn't.........or is it just me. hehe
Galen or anyone else...........do you see any "Bloodie" possibility in the 2nd one or only WV swirl? |
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| browse4antiques |
| Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:44 am Post subject: |
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One on left seems to be a messed up Pinch-pontil. Here's a nice example of your point about glass colors. Left is (I think) Champion swirl, Right is a corkscrew. ...Roger
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| lstmmrbls |
| Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 10:12 am Post subject: |
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| I am not seeing American Agate in those 2 marbles. (I could not say no with 100% conviction from the pics)The White does not look correct . Maybe a type of crease pontil on the left and I really can't tell on the right marble. Peace,Galen |
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| Ponkochan |
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| fat freddy's cat |
| Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Thank you for re-doing my pics. I had to get help from OH just to get some on as I keep missing the moment. A while back someone showed me how to upload from 'tinypics' but I couldn't find it tonight - would be really grateful to see this info again. Great topic, still could go anywhere.... I just latched onto the red/white bit. |
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| Ponkochan |
| Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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Oh my......now that I look at the pictures again...........I'm thinking that the one on the left may be one of those red & white hand-gathered transitional types.
Someone help! hehe |
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| Ponkochan |
| Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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Well.......ZZ...........it appears that you have 2 "Drizzle" marbles.
Actually, the one on the left looks like it could be a CA American Agate.........and the one on the right........maybe a CA Bloodie.
But..........I'll defer to the others for right now. I'd love to hear what they think. 
P.S. ZZ, part of your picture's URL got "dropped" (or lost)..........so I think that I found the right pics and posted them. |
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