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Doogle
Joined: 25 Aug 2009
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 Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:47 pm Post subject: Football shaped marbles |
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In a recent purchase from Ebay, I received this oblong marble. I have seen them in photos from excavation digs where it seems they were tossed because they were not round. This one is a really nice marble in great condition. I didn't notice it with the other marbles in the photo that was posted in the sale and it was not in the description. I was very surprised when the package arrived with this little football. Any id information on this one? What does the marble collecting field call these?
Are they a rare type or were they actually marketed in that shape? I cannot imagine them being produced, because a marble machine makes round marbles...or so I have come to believe. How the heck does one of these end up in the bucket? The size is 11/16 x 9/16.
Anyone else have some examples they would care to post?
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Alan
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They are referred to as "footballs" due to their shape. They are not uncommon at digs and are IME not especially sought after (due to their shape).
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Doogle
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| Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 4:40 pm Post subject: footballs |
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thanks Alan!
wow....marble collectors have a narrower collectibility range than most glass collectors that I know of. By that I mean....crudity in western blown glass bottles is a heavy collectibilty carrot, as well as mis-shapen bottles; either hand blown or machine made. Really clean examples of the same rare whiskey or bitters bottle will be many times LESS valuable than a perfect one with lots of crudity, mis-shapes, bubbles, inclusions, etc...This does have limits though. The burnt up, twisted remnant of a valuable bottle that was burned in a dump fire is worthless. But add some weirdness to a normal bottle without damage, and things could get interesting.
Just for giggles, and I want to know, would you sell that football you posted? Do they bring a high premium? I'm just tossing the football around here, looking for info. It seems like a legitimate area of collecting marbles to enter into, unless they are so common as to make them boring.
Again, thanks for your response.
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Alan
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| Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 5:31 pm Post subject: Re: footballs |
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| Doogle wrote: | thanks Alan!
wow....marble collectors have a narrower collectibility range than most glass collectors that I know of. By that I mean....crudity in western blown glass bottles is a heavy collectibilty carrot, as well as mis-shapen bottles; either hand blown or machine made. Really clean examples of the same rare whiskey or bitters bottle will be many times LESS valuable than a perfect one with lots of crudity, mis-shapes, bubbles, inclusions, etc...This does have limits though. The burnt up, twisted remnant of a valuable bottle that was burned in a dump fire is worthless. But add some weirdness to a normal bottle without damage, and things could get interesting.
Just for giggles, and I want to know, would you sell that football you posted? Do they bring a high premium? I'm just tossing the football around here, looking for info. It seems like a legitimate area of collecting marbles to enter into, unless they are so common as to make them boring.
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"Footballs" are sort of a sidebar type. Not a lot of collector interest - although there used to be a guy who collected them and "barbells". There were a certain number of hem at shows when there were active digs at Akro and Marble King.
Would I sell mine? No - but only because I have a large set of >1" Akro experimental patches that it was dug with... so I just keep it for the cool factor rather than any real collectability.
Marble collecting isn't really outside the bottle collecting trends that you noted. Some oddball marble pieces go for several times that of a well-defined production piece. "It depends". Eye appeal is everything. |
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David Chamberlain
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| Alan's Experimental(Orange and Blue) football is the only one I've ever seen. From those 1990s digs I would imagine. Outrageous. To a football marble collector it would be amongst the epitome of football marbles. I'd rate it high value-wise but then football collectors never really pay that much for their particular fancy so it might not go anywhere. Killer marble though. David P.S. Footballs are a fairly regular byproduct of marble production. Jabo shoots them out regularly or has. |
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