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browse4antiques
Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 552
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:25 am Post subject: Some recently aquired transitionals |
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I've recently aquired some transitionals, and I've finally gotten around to photographing them. I thought you might like to see some of the pics. ... Roger
First is a VHTF yellow on transparent green crease-pontil (11/16").
next, a really nice example of red/white crease-pontil (11/16")
This is an early German ground-pontil (15/16")
Next is a German pin-pontil (13/16")
finally, a German regular-pontil (11/16"), with a bit of drizzle.
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winnie
Joined: 08 Sep 2007 Posts: 111 Location: netherland
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 6:53 am Post subject: transitionals |
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Very nice Roger,I've a weakness for them,I remember they were together with the hand-mades my favorite marbles as a child.
The first one and the clear one with white I can't find here.
The German pin-pontil is that base transparante red?
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Al Oregon
Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Posts: 261 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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Pretty marbles - great pics! |
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browse4antiques
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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The pin-pontils and the regular-pontil red/white often were made with a truly transparent red, and if the red is quite thick, its hard to tell which is the base and which is the striping. I categorize them all as being red on white base because I've never found any that are really obvious transparent red base (with only a small amount of striping, like the other transparent bases often appear). The crease-pontil is found in a truly transparent red base, but I think its the only one. ... Roger |
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lstmmrbls Site Admin
Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 696
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:24 pm Post subject: A couple more |
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Killer mibs!! That green and yellow is over the top! Here are 2 I just scored
_________________ Peace,Galen |
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browse4antiques
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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those are great Galen, Could you post pics of what they look like at the cutoff? I'm guessing they're not crease-pontils. ... Roger |
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lstmmrbls Site Admin
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Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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With this type of CAC it appears the glass somehow folds over the cutoff, The tails are coming from the far side at about 2:30 get covered by the same fold
_________________ Peace,Galen |
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that1
Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 365 Location: here
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Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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Digging that second one Galen, what an oddball. actually all the mibs in this thread are cool when it comes to it. |
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lstmmrbls Site Admin
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 11:22 am Post subject: |
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Wow, looking close at the pics there is another little tail on the left side of the cutoff on both marbles going in an upwards direction!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I will never be able to figure these CACs out. _________________ Peace,Galen |
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browse4antiques
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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In comparing the CAC to the crease-pontils (as the pics below), the CAC seem to have a "9" that drops more directly toward the cutoff, whereas the crease-pontils tend to drop halfway, and then wrap around the marble. Also there seems to be more blending together of colors on the CAC, whereas the crease-pontils are usaually more separated. And, of course the striping at the cutoff is very different. Both manufacturers apparently knew how to produce the bright "electric" colors. I haven't seen very many of the CAC examples. Galen, are these observations true for most CAC "9" handgathereds? Have this type of 2-color opaque handgathered been found at the CAC site? ... Roger
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