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It's a *Baby* Chrissie for sure, BUT..is the other..
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jlmoriarty



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tankgrrl29 wrote:
#2 i believe is a vitro superior, formerly known as the "mystery patch"

(notice how the colors match up on either side of the marble...a pelt would most likely be flipped)


Tank~~ for a non-pelt collector, can you explain what you mean by "the colors would be flipped"?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

here's a nice example showing what i've learned to call "reversed side colors":




the idea is, while looking at the seam, if you go in a circle and name the colors, it goes like this:

white white red white white red

but the result on the marble is that each "half" ends up reversed from the other so that it looks like this:
red - white
white - white
white - red

on kris's marble, you can see that (aside from the patch) the colors on each "side" match up. i think this is how gino biffany was able to dispel the belief that these 'mystery patches' were peltiers (back in the day when we were first learning to ID machine made marbles.)

btw, this mostly applies to 6 ribboned peltiers; baseballs generally match up
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rick/RAR has often refered to the Pelt *flip/flop* in the past. chris,.. your description with pics explains it nicely. I wasn't clear on this, especialy with the 6 ribbon mibs Thanks!
Kris
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jlmoriarty



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So they're just offset with four stripes, but reversed with six. You can't reverse four stripes because you only get the same order, whereas you can reverse three (in a one, one, two configuration) of the six to get a reverse order.

Thanks Chris,

John
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's kind of hard to explain when you can't point Smile

baseballs could technically be reversed...the circle would be red white red white, but usually baseballs had all one color on a different colored base.

occasionally you'll find more than one color of ribbons on a baseball, but those are the oddballs!

glad it helped
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe most ribbon colors are reversed(filp flopped) on the 4 ribbon 2 color ribbon transparent base peltier rainbos. (including sunsets, 7-ups ect. Peace,Galen

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