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1DanS · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 89

Yes, that marble is called a transitional type. I don't believe the origin of these has yet to be determined. It is a machine made marble. The "pontil" on this one is not a true pontil, but rather a cut or shear mark. It was most likely cause by the cutting blade(s) being too dull or the marble cooling a little too quickly after being cut.

The names of these "pontils" have changed somewhat through the years. I believe yours is a pinch style (could be wrong though), in that it appears the end of the glass was pinched together.

I hope some of that made sense(?)
thanks.

roany poany · Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 3:00 pm Post subject:

marblemover · Joined: 14 Aug 2007 Posts: 114 Location: Vancouver USA

ooph! i just realized i said the American Agates were made by Akro! well that was WRONG...they were made by Christensen Agate. [i edited my previous post]

i do believe Doogle's could be a CAC (hand-gathered and machine-rounded) American Agate.
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roany poany · Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 3:14 pm Post subject:

"aventurine happens"
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lstmmrbls · Site Admin Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 696

Yep, What buddy says. Although a lot that are called transitionals actually are handmades. Ground pontils, regular pontils, and maybe even Leighton types(melted pontil) unless you want to call a handheld rounding tool a machine. Actually all the handgathered slags made at MFC CAC Pelt and Akro are true transitionals(hand-gathered,machine rounded) as are the crease and pinch pontil types(as shown)and maybe even most of the so called single seam CACs(the last 10 words are just conjecture).
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Doogle · Joined: 25 Aug 2009 Posts: 200 Location: Bishop, California

well, this could be exciting. As a new guy, I would have and did have it in the Akro Cork box. I looked at the pole with the pinch marks, and thought it was in-making, not a gather or pinch mark. What really had me wondering about this one was the colors....they looked really different from any of the other Akro's, except for the Imperial-type one. That thin orange stripe also didn't keep up with the larger reddish band, which I thought for a marble spinning in a cup, both stripes should have been in sync,instead of different orbits so to speak. Thank you all for this thread--it has been a good learning experience!
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1DanS · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 89

Well, I do have my own crazy, whacked-out theory, about these types of "nine and tail" marbles. I highly doubt I could get many, or in fact anyone, to agree with me though.

So for the time being, I will go along with the majority and call them hand-gathered marbles also.
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David Chamberlain · Joined: 18 May 2009 Posts: 214

Except, of course, for the clearly defined 'pontil' and movement in this marble that extra lighter orange swirl make it a bit different than your usual American Agate, David